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JMLenke
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I must be doing something right

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So last night I got home after the GWAPA meeting and found what I think is a flower on one of the anubias in the 15h with a total DIY canopy.

I must be doing something right in this tank, even if all the shrimp are dieing off.
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I've heard you can force a flower with a spike in phosphates... just wondering if something in fertilizartion or something may be poisoning shrimp...
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Undisturbed A. nana flowers pretty regularly. For me, the ones in the substrate (roots only, not the rhizome) flower much better than rock- or wood-attached plants. Age seems also to be a factor - once the rhizome get to 8-12 inches, flowering is all but certain IF you can leave it alone. My generally neglected tanks tend to have flowers spring to fall, except the Tanganyikan rock wall tank, where all the masses of A. nana are rock-grown and the Cichlids uproot any roots making it to the substrate. That tank almost never has flowers.

FWIW
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RTRJR wrote:Undisturbed A. nana flowers pretty regularly. For me, the ones in the substrate (roots only, not the rhizome) flower much better than rock- or wood-attached plants. Age seems also to be a factor - once the rhizome get to 8-12 inches, flowering is all but certain IF you can leave it alone. My generally neglected tanks tend to have flowers spring to fall, except the Tanganyikan rock wall tank, where all the masses of A. nana are rock-grown and the Cichlids uproot any roots making it to the substrate. That tank almost never has flowers.

FWIW
Yeah after seeing your tanks yesterday I was happy that I just had nana growing the flower was a bonus. The biggest and best growing piece of nana is the only one that is flowering but it is dwarfed by all of your Anubias.
ingg wrote:I've heard you can force a flower with a spike in phosphates... just wondering if something in fertilizartion or something may be poisoning shrimp...
I cleaned the tank last night top to bottom(without breaking it down) and there was more then I thought dead shrimpwise, I am not adding anything to the tank other then some excel occasionally. I dont have a clue what is causing the shrimp deaths but I switched to prime, changed food, added crushed coral to the tank, I may add some into the filter and I am trying to track it down. Yes I will probably be buying more shrimp off you at the next PVAS meeting if I can track the cause down.

p.s. been trying to loosely follow http://www.plantedtank.net/articles/Che ... d-Care/23/ regarding shrimp.
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LOL! I should have pointed out the A. nana variations in the tanks. At the front of the system #2 tank where we were gathering DNR trios after the meeting, there are three "bonsai" A. nana plants. Those are tiny pieces found usually on a filter intake*. After a year in the substrate but somewhat shaded by more mature A.nana, they have foliage directly comparable to A. nana petite. There are more in the River Tank close to the front door (shaded and in very thin susrtate). Then you can compare the rock-grown A.nana in the Cichlid tank to that in #2's substrate, and the slightly smaller wood-grown but substrate-rooted plants in that same tank. Long-undisturbed A.nana can have leaves comparable in size to A. barteri (the unoccupied 29 upstairs has some).

A. nana has huge variation in growth form even for one grower's tanks, all depending on how that particular plant is handled. All but the smallest can bloom - it does seem to take some mass of the rhizome before the plant can produce flowers. The long and large-leaf rhizome can produce 2 blooms per petiole.

*A torn-away leaf, if it has a bit of rhizome bark (not sure that is right term) still attached, can form a bonsai type platlet.
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